tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post7061180829586469175..comments2024-03-28T14:49:36.133-04:00Comments on John Kenneth Muir's Reflections on Cult Movies and Classic TV: Memory Bank: The 4:30 Movie (WABC, Channel 7)John Kenneth Muirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15629979615332893780noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-25313621630910513322022-03-06T11:11:24.037-05:002022-03-06T11:11:24.037-05:00I am 55 now and live in Queens with my wife. I use...I am 55 now and live in Queens with my wife. I used to live in Selden, Long Island. I would come home after school (we had split session back then) and watch the 4:30 movie. That theme song is ingrained in my mind forever. I used to read the little movie review blurbs in TV Guide and Newsday. I looked for horror movies that had 3 stars or more. I loved the horror movies. Man I loved that time back then. My dog was always there with me. For every fudge pop I had I gave him one. I know, not too healthy for a dog right. I have the 4:30 movie theme as my ringtone on my phone. I don't know exactly why after all these years it has such an effect on me. One of my favorites was The Flesh Eaters. It blew my mind when I was 12 or 13 years old. The other one I remember is the Million Dollar Movie. There's so many more I remember from back then. Thanks for remembering this.johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02085367758699324865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-71507351800010344092022-03-06T03:10:07.054-05:002022-03-06T03:10:07.054-05:00I am 55 now and live in Queens with my wife. I use...I am 55 now and live in Queens with my wife. I used to live in Selden, Long Island. I would come home after school (we had split session back then) and watch the 4:30 movie. That theme song is ingrained in my mind forever. Maybe even in death. I used to read the little movie review blurbs in TV Guide and Newsday. I looked for horror movies that had 3 stars or more. I loved the horror movies. Man I loved that time back then. My dog was always there with me. For every fudge pop I had I gave him one. I know not to healthy right. I have the 4:30 movie theme as my ringtone on my phone. I don't know exactly why after all these years it has such an effect on me. One of my favorites was The Flesh Eaters. It blew my mind when I was 12 or 13 years old. The other one I remember is the Million Dollar Movie. There's so many more I remember from back then. Thanks for remembering this.johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02085367758699324865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-75319036943883282472014-03-12T15:28:13.638-04:002014-03-12T15:28:13.638-04:00The origin of The 4:30 Movie's theme, much sub...The origin of <i>The 4:30 Movie</i>'s theme, much subject to speculation over the years, has finally been uncovered. Written (apparently) in the last months of the afternoon skein's use of <i>The Big Show</i> title in 1968 and, appropriately, titled "Big Show Theme" (as registered with ASCAP in its ACE database), it was penned by Walter Raim (a musician and songwriter who composed many music cues for TV promos - and who, at the time this was conceived, issued a series of albums on the short-lived MTA label under the moniker of the Walter Raim Concept), co-produced by Bernard Drayton (son of a jazz musician, and a veteran producer of advertising jingles), and recorded in New York City. It certainly had more verve and swing to it than, say, Stan Zabka's sedate (to the point of quasi-comatose) "Silhouette of a Dream" which was the <i>Movie 4</i> theme for at least the mid-to-late '60's (I remember that show, in its last year or so, having a wholly different theme which was far more uptempo but somewhat more string-based).wbhisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270661237413315760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-6341394334307583912012-08-18T14:24:24.855-04:002012-08-18T14:24:24.855-04:00WBHIST: Thanks for this great info!
--IvanWBHIST: Thanks for this great info!<br />--IvanIvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16443946766217092846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-38246452418655715452012-08-17T23:43:15.103-04:002012-08-17T23:43:15.103-04:00The 4:30 Movie title actually originated from WABC...<i>The 4:30 Movie</i> title actually originated from WABC's then-sister station in Detroit, WXYZ-TV (now owned by the Scripps media empire), from the point that station's movie show first moved into that time slot on May 20, 1968 (over four months after WABC first aired movies at 4:30 P.M., originally under the title <i>The Big Show</i> which was in effect for its first year in the soon-to-be-titular time slot). At the time WABC settled their movie skein at 4:30, they were competing against <i>The Early Show</i> on WCBS-TV (with an increasingly tired set of 1949-62 Universal B-movie programmers dominating that long-running series which had been on since 1951 and had a 4:30 start time since January 1966) and <i>Movie 4</i> on WNBC-TV (which, even before what became <i>The 4:30 Movie</i> debuted on WABC, had descended to also-ran status - and fell even further in its last years on the air, to be replaced in late April 1974 by the first hour of the two-hour <i>NewsCenter4</i>). Only a few months after WABC started airing movies at 4:30, WCBS threw in the towel and grabbed Mike Douglas' syndicated talker which had aired on WOR-TV since 1965. (Douglas would be a fixture on Channel 2 until syndicator Group W yanked him in 1980 and replaced him with John Davidson.)<br /><br />Aside from WABC and WXYZ, ABC's other O&O's had afternoon movies - on Los Angeles' KABC and San Francisco's KGO, <i>The 6:00 Movie</i> up to 1971, <i>The 6:30 Movie</i> from then to 1974, and finally <i>The 3:30 Movie</i> until 1980 on KABC and c.1985 on KGO; and <i>The 3:30 Movie</i> on WLS in Chicago (which moved a half-hour earlier to 3:00 P.M. in 1980 and remained there until its 1984 cancellation).wbhisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270661237413315760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-55759140857455141202012-07-28T16:23:45.326-04:002012-07-28T16:23:45.326-04:00Strange and coincidental timing to read this today...Strange and coincidental timing to read this today, Saturday, July 28th, John. Last night, after we reviewed "The Dark Knight Rises" on Destinies, I was thinking about how I had watched the 1966 "Batman" movie on the 4:30 Movie during Super-Hero Week (along with the Cathy Lee Crosby Wonder Woman movie) and the theme song was running through my head all night and this morning. <br /> So, imagine my surprise when I scrolled down the list of your posts to catch up, and found this retrospective of the 4:30 Movie, along with the link to the title sequence. <br /> Thanks, John.Howard Margolinhttp://www.captphilonline.com/Destinies.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-66384978206956983812012-07-26T22:47:02.275-04:002012-07-26T22:47:02.275-04:00Tku.... I may have to check that out since the com...Tku.... I may have to check that out since the comfort of a TV screen at home may be delayed unless I buy a bootleg version, which I'm trying hard not to do.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-2403652635085249502012-07-26T14:40:53.221-04:002012-07-26T14:40:53.221-04:00Birth, death, infinity. BEN CRAZY. Then the 80s ha...Birth, death, infinity. BEN CRAZY. Then the 80s had The Ghoul, who seemed to show Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things every other week.Randal Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728992897551848531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-90422676783067316732012-07-26T12:04:44.924-04:002012-07-26T12:04:44.924-04:00Actually johnny Sokko is on HULU here.Actually johnny Sokko is on HULU <a href="http://www.hulu.com/johnny-sokko-and-his-flying-robot" rel="nofollow">here.</a>mkotschihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442422156486691317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-53668019081825022002012-07-26T09:13:05.422-04:002012-07-26T09:13:05.422-04:00Wow, sorry for the typos, I need more coffee.
Here...Wow, sorry for the typos, I need more coffee.<br />Here is the clip for <a href="http://youtu.be/gff8nGN9W4s" rel="nofollow">Ghoulardi</a> I wanted to link to.mkotschihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442422156486691317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-55787547559940286312012-07-26T08:57:03.873-04:002012-07-26T08:57:03.873-04:00Cool. I didn't have this one. Most of my aft...Cool. I didn't have this one. Most of my afterschool memories were of me running home for Battle Of The Planets, Starblazers on some of the locals and Tom Baker's Doctor Who on public broadcast netwrok.<br /><br />Re: Voyage Into Space.! Oh, that excites me. I have been waiting and watching for the release of Johnny Sokko And His Flying Robot right alongside the Batman TV Series. When will they release it!?<br /><br />I loved that series. Cheers John. all the best.SFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-85243829662072926892012-07-26T08:04:53.626-04:002012-07-26T08:04:53.626-04:00I feel your pain, I was born and live the first 11...I feel your pain, I was born and live the first 11 almost 12 years of my life in Cleveland Ohio. Say what you will about CLE, we always had good local TV talanet and movies.<br /><br />We had Marty Sullivan as <a href="http://youtu.be/ewJcTRSrVzY" rel="nofollow">Superhost</a> on Saturdays for the kids.<br /><br /><a href="http://youtu.be/ewJcTRSrVzY" rel="nofollow">Big Chuck and Little John</a> for the teenagers on Friday nights<br /><br />And the <a href="http://youtu.be/vx5-tfdeCtU" rel="nofollow">Prize Movie</a> for the old folks demographic on weekdays, though I mus admit I watched it quite a lot if home from school. <br /><br />Not to mention Ernie Anderson as <a href="wuab" rel="nofollow">Ghoulardi</a> in the mid sixties.<br /><br />I can't help but think something was in the water back then, I mean we are talking about Lake Erie ;) <br /><br />Either way I loved it then as I miss it now.mkotschihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442422156486691317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-2053215044968671732012-07-25T23:52:04.245-04:002012-07-25T23:52:04.245-04:00For many years in the seventies and into the early...For many years in the seventies and into the early eighties, our local ABC affiliate had a movie slot from the end of the evening news at 6:30 to the beginning of Prime Time at 8:00. It was, of course, imaginatively named "The 6:30 Movie".<br /><br />I was particularly fond of the annual "Godzilla Week" and later in the seventies "Planet of the Apes Week".<br /><br />The station had a number of other movie slots... the Mid-Morning Movie, on which I first saw both "Fail Safe" and "Doctor Strangelove". And various weekend afternoon movie slots on those few Saturdays and Sundays when the network wasn't covering a sporting event. Tarzan movies used to be a staple of the weekend movie in the seventies. On one of those Sunday movies, I first saw 1933's "King Kong".<br /><br />Yes, to this day, I miss local affiliates of the Big Three having dedicated and locally programmed movie slots.Donald Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-86677701955231397312012-07-25T18:25:25.422-04:002012-07-25T18:25:25.422-04:00Hi Ivan,
Another fan of the 4:30 movie! Awesome!...Hi Ivan,<br /><br />Another fan of the 4:30 movie! Awesome! <br /><br />You make an intriguing and counter-intuitive but no doubt accurate point about the ABC editors cutting the movies to ribbons. <br /><br />In some instances, their "edited for TV" cutting actually improved the films!!! I have the feeling this notion is definitively true of many Kaiju movies, based on recent re-watchings. <br /><br />The Blob is already a short film...I can't imagine that one cut back even further. But you're right I'm sure, they cut out the love story, the comic relief...and left the good stuff...like monsters pounding each other to dust!<br /><br />Great memories!<br /><br />best,<br />JohnJohn Kenneth Muirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15629979615332893780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-66899891347220861202012-07-25T18:22:55.897-04:002012-07-25T18:22:55.897-04:00Hi SGB:
Oh my goodness, I think that WPIX in New ...Hi SGB:<br /><br />Oh my goodness, I think that WPIX in New York (Channel 11) had a Saturday afternoon Creature Feature too! '<br /><br />I remember that when Saturday morning programming was over, it was time to tune in to the monsters (inevitably Godzilla...) duking it out.<br /><br />You bring up, aptly, "Walking Distance," one of the best episodes of The Twilight Zone. I do feel like that character there sometimes, just wanting to go back and "taste" the past for a few hours. <br /><br />I wonder what it would be like...<br /><br />best,<br />JohnJohn Kenneth Muirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15629979615332893780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-8935454449561680532012-07-25T18:20:38.984-04:002012-07-25T18:20:38.984-04:00Hi Pete,
Good to know that Indianapolis had its o...Hi Pete,<br /><br />Good to know that Indianapolis had its own variation on the 4:30 Movie theme too! Outstanding. That earlier time (3:30 pm) must have made it a race to get home and see the monster movies! Sounds like great times...<br /><br />best,<br />JohnJohn Kenneth Muirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15629979615332893780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-49149813122676477752012-07-25T17:21:38.923-04:002012-07-25T17:21:38.923-04:00JKM: Talk of "The 4:30 Movie" makes me s...JKM: Talk of "The 4:30 Movie" makes me swoon! I was one of those little monsters that RAN home to catch whatever was on, no matter its (lack of) quality. <br />But here's something that I've commented on before at my site: sometimes the butchery that the ABC editors performed on the films actually improved them! To make a movie fit into the 90 minute (including commercials) time-slot, sometimes meant that almost half of the flick was ditched. And in many cases (George Pal's Conquest of Space, The Blob, countless kaiju, others), the trimming of excess baggage meant cutting out all the snoozeville nonsense: the love story, comic hijinx and so-called drama, leaving only "the good stuff."<br />Thanks for these memories,<br />Ivan<br />http://lernerinternational.blogspot.com/Ivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16443946766217092846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-37102087956607446932012-07-25T14:39:03.770-04:002012-07-25T14:39:03.770-04:00John the afternoon movie was a special event in al...John the afternoon movie was a special event in all our '70s childhoods. As a boy in the '70s my friends and I also loved the Saturday afternoon Creature Double Feauture of two films from 12 noon to 4 p.m. on a local UHF station. This is where I got my old science-fiction, horror and fantasy film education. I also loved our family's almost weekly visit to the Drive-In movies double feature in those '70s Summers too. John,like you, I would love to time travel back to the '70s to relive some of those awesome boyhood memories like in the Twilight Zone "Walking Distance" episode.<br /><br />SGBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-91245921666824651932012-07-25T14:33:10.445-04:002012-07-25T14:33:10.445-04:00We had "The 3:30 Movie" on Channel 13 wh...We had "The 3:30 Movie" on Channel 13 when I was growing up in Indianapolis. I have very fond memories of rushing home from school, scarfing down a snack, and hitting the couch just in time during their Monster Movie Weeks.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13238621824737676749noreply@blogger.com