tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post3220438249464386524..comments2024-03-28T14:49:36.133-04:00Comments on John Kenneth Muir's Reflections on Cult Movies and Classic TV: Bat-a-palooza: Sci Tech # 5: Batman EditionJohn Kenneth Muirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15629979615332893780noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-76806581072386912152012-07-20T11:11:43.906-04:002012-07-20T11:11:43.906-04:00Bat-reply to your entertaining Bat-blog.:)
John ni...Bat-reply to your entertaining Bat-blog.:)<br />John nice tour of the Batcave technology. I always enjoyed the '60s 20th Century Fox television series production design of the ridiculous assiduously labeled Batman equipment. In first season episodes of Batman '66-'67 you can even see in the Batcave to the right of the batpoles a Forcefield Projector Generator replica prop as used at the same time on Lost In Space on the Fox lot.<br /><br />SGBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-40907025558060396482012-07-20T10:51:48.236-04:002012-07-20T10:51:48.236-04:00I'm glad you pointed out that the Batman TV sh...I'm glad you pointed out that the Batman TV show was a reflection of the comic as it existed at the time (specifically the "New Look" era of Batman between 1964-69). Many people who are only familiar with the TV show think that it came out of a vacuum, but the writers were taking what was in the comic and exaggerating it to a point where the adults would find it funny rather than stupid. Batman already had a Batmobile and a Batarang in the comic, why not put "Bat" on everything in the show? Batman was a do-gooder in the comic, make him an anal-retentive bore in the show. It was a great satire of the comic. And don't forget that this was the era of Andy Warhol and Lichtenstein, when all pop-culture was under scrutiny. This sort of scrutiny was new and fresh in the 60s. We're beyond that now and accept the barrage of pop-culture as part of the landscape. To some extent, you have to understand the era to understand the popularity of the show.Neal Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17053148427058126745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-25952227719648214592012-07-20T10:13:31.388-04:002012-07-20T10:13:31.388-04:00Sadly, I think Trent didn't just hit the nail ...Sadly, I think Trent didn't just hit the nail on the head, he bent that sucker into uselessness. I used to think it was simply a case of encroaching getoffmylawnism, but suspension of disbelief is viewed skeptically, everything must be seen through an ironic lens, and so on. Again, what was that line from Somehow, Satan Got Behind Me, all the enchantment's been drained?<br /><br />Both approaches have their merits and weaknesses (as does everything, no?), but it's nonetheless sad to see the old ways generally out of fashion.Randal Graveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08728992897551848531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-75049208626629408612012-07-20T08:32:41.526-04:002012-07-20T08:32:41.526-04:00Hi Trent,
I enjoyed reading your comments. Person...Hi Trent,<br /><br />I enjoyed reading your comments. Personally, I believe that Nolan has sacrificed too much imagination with the focus on realism, but I understand his approach, and I appreciate that his conceit is consistently and artistically applied, even if it doesn't exactly fit my preference. <br /><br />I hope your description of the younger generation's desire for realism is not accurate, but I fear it is. There's something weird and wonderful and yes, magical, about Burton's Batman. It's a film that expresses its meaning through its visuals. It will be a shame if people miss the glories of that approach...<br /><br />best,<br />JohnJohn Kenneth Muirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15629979615332893780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-69333963060682982342012-07-20T08:27:30.980-04:002012-07-20T08:27:30.980-04:00Outstanding as always. I enjoy these sci tech clo...Outstanding as always. I enjoy these sci tech close-ups and your observations. I also enjoyed Trent's succinct take as well. It does feel as though the acceptance of fantasy is in short supply. This problem is why I have such trouble convincing my young ones to watch Land Of The Lost - another great sci tech post you delivered for in the past. Best, sffSFFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04256589316922398158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-33780642599196163992012-07-20T04:08:06.460-04:002012-07-20T04:08:06.460-04:00My 13 yr old nephew was watching Burton's Batm...My 13 yr old nephew was watching Burton's Batman last month and could not have been more bored. I may think that Nolan's version, including the character portrayals, are superior to Burton's, but I never could call Burton's Batman boring. The generational footprint that we live in today is called Realism. Suspension of disbelief has never been lower, if it does not look, sound, and feel like everyday life, then it's fake, and thus it's boring.Trenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00419980258148279356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12380553.post-36689562922844062372012-07-20T03:44:32.754-04:002012-07-20T03:44:32.754-04:00You're memory serves you correctly John, '...You're memory serves you correctly John, 'TDK' was a veritable tour of the Chicago Loop and Lower Wacker Drive.Trenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00419980258148279356noreply@blogger.com